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Postby MickEssex » Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:18 pm

As Pete started the topic 'Fit for purpose', I thought I would start this one. I suspect this will be getting new post quite often. If you buy cheap parts instead of spending a little more money and getting better quality (where available), then you you get what you pay for. If however there is just one type with no alternative then you would hope it would be fit for purpose and last for some time.

I'll start the ball rolling.

Heater control valve (late type) supplied by ESM and fitted by me approx six months ago. http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/pro ... 94d4b0e61a

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There are currently two manufacturers of Late Heater Control valves and both have build quality issues. Please telephone us for update and advice.


I purchased mine by going in to their shop, they didn't tell me at the time of purchase that there were issues with them, if they had I wouldn't have bought one. :evil:

This is the culprit, as you can see it fell apart leaving me with an empty rad and an overheated engine. :roll:

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Re: Crap parts

Postby jonathon H » Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:13 pm

One reason why we are looking at different avenues to generate business. Minors simply are being priced out of pro rebuilds, not through labour but crap parts and stupid low values.
Truly shocking and in my opinion ESM and the likes should have withdrawn stock and sent it back to the manufacturer. However even Heritage do not take returns, and no supplier will offer decent consequential loss. The latter being a real 'hate' of mine as we have no choice for purchases outside of the major retailers, and if this had been a part we had fitted we would have been blamed, had to replace the item with another crap part, plus pay for any damage incurred which could be hundreds of pounds worth , for the sake of say £40 income for the part and its fitting. Restoration is fast becoming a 'mugs game' I'm afraid. :(
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Re: Crap parts

Postby mogimad » Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:13 pm

Sadly it's not just motor parts,
I Fit out bathrooms, and I no longer supply baths, taps, wc's, basins, showers, trays or enclosures..
The majority of stuff is of poor quality, and just like yourself jonathon, if we supply it, were the first stop
when it fails due to its sub standard quality...and putting it right can be way more expensive and time consuming
than the initial fitting....
Now I don't have that headache to worry about....
Sad state of affairs really, but it seems that the general public have , how can I put it....
....An Eye For Value.....

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Re: Crap parts

Postby old english white » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:47 am

I've only just come across this thread. I recently found that the heater on my (late 1098) Minor saloon was only giving out cold air - not what is required now that December is upon us! The heater hoses looked very perished and the coolant rather "brown" so I removed and flushed out both the heater matrix and the radiator and fitted new hoses. The heater then gave out SOME warmth but was not exactly hot. I then removed the heater valve, which is original as far as I know, and blew through it. Even when fully open it was restricted. To obtain a new one I telephoned Bull Motif spares who, to their credit, told me they don't have any in stock at present due to reliability issues and failures. I didn't think that taking my old valve apart and putting it back together would be advised so had a search through my box of "bits which might be useful one day" . There I found one of the simple brass taps as fitted to the earlier Minors. In 5 minutes it was fitted and I now have a constant flow of heat through my heater :D . OK, I can't control it from inside the car, but in the unlikely event of becoming too hot inside, I'll just open a window!

It is however a sorry situation that a relatively simple component cannot be obtained easily for our cars and many owners will have had experience of purchasing new items which turned out to be of very poor quality. As time goes on, the frustration of this could make running a Morris Minor a less attractive proposition to some which is a bad thing for us all. For many years the Morris Minor Owners Club have talked about arranging the re-manufacture of some key parts but little seems to have been done. The club probably have a larger captive audience than most of the parts suppliers I would guess? On the face of it, it seems extraordinary that somebody has gone to the trouble of making these components to such a poor standard. Surely it can't be THAT difficult to do it right :evil:
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Re: Crap parts

Postby chesney » Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:00 pm

I agree, likely to be a long thread.
On the way to Charlie's MOT, brand new top hose split, and brand new thermostat seized shut, both from Bull Motif. Items were replaced by items from Moss, which have been brilliant by comparison, if a bit pricy.
Brand new thermostat housings need modifying to fit properly too. Engine rubber mounts too firm, though to be fair Bull Motif's engine mounts seem a lot softer, as they claim.
My main problem at the minute is that no-one reproduces the speedo drive pinion units, as mine's worn out! Only second hand ones from Bull Motif, which are second hand and £15, and not guaranteed to be any less worn than mine!
It's a shame, I'd happily pay an extra £10, for a known working product. I tend to use Moss now, mainly as they have a depot in Paris, but also the parts seem more thought out and of better quality. Plus the service I've received has been to a continually high standard.
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Re: Crap parts

Postby snowmanbill » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:28 pm

Santa brought me a new set of Traveller rear bumpers but I notice on the 'instructions' that they should not be polished just washed and given the odd coat of car wax. Presumably this means that the chrome is of such an inferior quality that using a good quality chrome polish will simply rub it off. Impressed........no not a lot!
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Re: Crap parts

Postby bmcecosse » Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:33 pm

Consider varnishing them Bill - before fitting.
 









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Re: Crap parts

Postby snowmanbill » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:28 pm

Good idea Roy - the last ones I bought were a complete mess after one winter
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Re: Crap parts

Postby moggy van » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:39 pm

I bought a pair of new wiper blades for my Minor van and used them twice and the rubber split and the chrome has gone rusty.
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Re: Crap parts

Postby baconbuttyman » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:23 am

what a great idea for a thread, do you mind if i copy the idea onto my own car forum :brave: :brave:
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Re: Crap parts

Postby Griffo » Fri May 15, 2015 2:36 pm

I recently purchased a new door handle for my Moggy but on receipt found that the inside surface was really rough. I called the supplier who informed me that "they are all like that". I recommended that he describe the item correctly on their website as inferior to the original. As stated earlier in this string, I would happily pay a little extra for a quality item if the difference was explained to me.
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Re: Crap parts

Postby drivewasher » Thu May 21, 2015 5:33 pm

Rubber connector that connects vac advance pipe to the carb flange. Brand new from ESM around August 2014 done about 200 miles.
Rubber has turned into a sticky chewing gum sort of mess and it's broke in 2 causing irate idle as engine drawing air.
Iv'e borrowed the one out of my electronic distributor for the time being. As that req the nylon tube as the dissy vac has no threads.
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Re: Crap parts

Postby Big Al » Thu May 21, 2015 8:50 pm

Let them know, they have been good in the past when I needed the rare thing replaced.
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Re: Crap parts

Postby trog34 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:38 pm

here's one for the list, went to fit my hydraulic clutch master cylinder tonight but Jonno's wonderful cylinder and bracket wouldn't fit. thought at first it was a bent chassis leg but after much cursing and crawling around under the van gave up and removed clutch pedal. then found the problem, the clutch pivot hasn't been welded on straight and is angled towards the chassis. cant remember who I got it from so i'll have to straighten it myself
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Re: Crap parts

Postby drivewasher » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:26 pm

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steering rack boots Only done about 300 miles. It seems like the grease has melted them.

I have fitted a new set from Andrew Eggleton who describes them as the better one etc. They do seem a tad stiffer & thicker
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