Project ST170 Morris

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Project ST170 Morris

Postby morrisfixer » Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:30 pm

Hi guys,
Well i've taken the plunge and decided to swap my fiat twin cam engine for something a little bit more modern (hope it works!).The engine is a ford focus st170 lump mated to a ford type 9 box
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st engine and gearbox and wiring loom was found on ebay so i snapped it up  :D
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No backing down now, getting the morris ready to take the fiat engine and box out
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As you can see the ford engine is alot taller than the fiat and is only an inch longer
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Onto strippin the ford engine
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Cutting the rossmember brought a tear to my eye  :cry: or was it grit!!!  :lol:
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Yes i'll be putting in some strenthening before you all start to get on at me  :D
Onto getting the engine in first try  :lol: looks a tight sqweeze but its in  :shock:  :D  :D
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As you can see its really tight between the servo and the inlet manifold, yes i've tryed the injection system and it huge, i'll have to put on my thinking cap for that one :shock:

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Its the same with the exhaust side too i'll have to get amaifold made to sute :wink:

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Anyway thats where i am at the moment, i'll need to take off the anti roll bar as the engine needs to go lower and also lift the gearbox up so the whole lot is level. If you want to ask questions feel free, oh sorry the pictures are huge  :D
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P.S More big pitures to follow!!!
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Postby Big Al » Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:59 pm

Wow... how big can you go...? :lol:
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Postby MakeMinorv8 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:02 pm

Excellent pics there Stevie :D

Just a thought but what about the exhaust manifold from a Black-top Zetec. *If* the flange is the same, the manifold on mine looks a lot more compact than the one in your pics.

Good luck and keep the pics coming! :wink:
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Postby morrisfixer » Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:53 pm

Hi Al,
I know haha, I was using Mr magoo's computer

I don't know if the standard zetec manifold would fit or restrict the engine  
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Postby minormadman » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:18 pm

Stevie that looks a big yin, I know you say it's not much bigger than the TC But it looks a real Gob full (as we say in Barnsley)
Bravely done there, will be following your pics-thanks for showing us.

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Postby reprs » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:21 pm

Impressive stuff!!  Is that what I'll be doing in a couple of years time?
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Postby mrbenn » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:09 am

Had a Focus ST170 once, was a very quick car so imagine the Minor will be quite a beast!
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Postby jimmy-d » Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:54 am

Love what your doing and will be intently watching your progress but Im sure that "thinking cap"is going to get a big workout.You could always go carbs instead of the plenum manifold,sure would sound cool with all the induction noise but I guess space could still be an issue for fitting aircleaners etc.
how can you work to a budget when you own a morris minor?
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Postby morrisfixer » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:39 pm

Hi jimmy-d
The plan is to fit bike carbs on the st manifold but I might have to make a new inlet manifold so the carbs are at 45 degree angle towards the front  so that it clears the servo  and then repostion the alternater   :)
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Postby jonathon H » Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:12 pm

We do a 4-2-1 manifold for the zetec, not sure if the two are compatible though.
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Postby morrisfixer » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:01 pm

Hi jonathon,
that would solve one head ache  :D I'll need to try a zetec manifold first to see if it fits I can't seeing it being that far out
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Postby jonathon H » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:41 pm

You may find that the black top Zetec inlet manifold might fit better as it is all low down on the block.
Have a look at my site under modifications then zetec, then scroll down to the bottom of the page to the PDF document, you will see the inlet manifold on the supercharged motor and std motor.
I'll look for a better pic.
You could go t /bodies AT do the smallest available which are 25mm long, superb quality but cost a bit.
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Postby Minordelay » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:24 am

Hi

There's a chap on the rods and sods hot rod forum who's put an st 170 engine in an Anglia. might be worth tapping him up for some ideas.

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Postby morrisfixer » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:33 pm

I'll look it up thanks Nige :D
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Postby morrisfixer » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:48 pm

Here's an up date on the engine swap, my bike carbs arrived yesterday kawasaki zx6r ninja
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All I need to do is get the carbs to fit the st170 manifold

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trust me it's an optical illusion the carbs aren't that wee :lol:
After about 3 hrs stripping and then putting back together first fit to the engine

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I've still to cut about 30mm off the manifold that should give me clearance from the servo

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